't think you see anyone saying it has to be one plan. warren buffett put one out this week as a way to bring in the revenue. >> a minimum tax on the wealthy. >> right. people are open to different plans. that's the most important thing. you haven't seen people say, it's my way or no other way. that's not what happened. >> it seems the president says you have to get there by rates. >> if you need the significant revenue, i believe you have to do something with rates. let's let everyone put their proposals out. we want to do something significant, not just pretend that people are doing it. >> how much is this posturing -- people who are involved in this seem to say i think we'll get the deal. is that what you think? if so, when? >> oi think first of all the election demanded such a deal. you look at the candidates that lost, we're adhering to rigid ideologies, while the balance of power didn't change in washington, there was a message from the people of this country that they wanted to see a different tone, wanted to see people who were willing to stand next to someone that they didn'